{"id":3236,"date":"2019-01-14T22:02:29","date_gmt":"2019-01-14T21:02:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/?p=3236"},"modified":"2023-02-23T20:32:25","modified_gmt":"2023-02-23T19:32:25","slug":"power-of-podcasts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/en\/power-of-podcasts\/","title":{"rendered":"The power of podcasts: clement and strict views"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><br>After my visit to a cross media caf\u00e9, last Fall, I draw some conclusions on podcasting.<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Conclusions<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li> For me and our podcast, niche &amp; personality is king.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The public won\u2019t listen to a show which doesn\u2019t affect them.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>\u2018Canned\u2019 radio is a beautiful invention. But it\u2019s completely different from an intimate podcast. <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Podcasting in The Netherlands<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>In The Netherlands, podcasts are perhaps not as popular yet as in the UK, or elsewhere in the world. Or things go differently, I don&#8217;t know.<br>I\u2019d like to share some of my Dutch experiences and ideas with you.<br>Please feel free to give your remarks on my blogs!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Power of podcasts<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Topic of the media caf\u00e9 was: podcasting and online radio. Here, the passionate DJ and podcaster Michiel Veenstra described podcasting as personal, close to the listener and specialized. In short: as a craft.<br>Personally, I think this is the power of podcasts. \u2018Podcasting is very intimate\u2019 and \u2019It should add something new\u2019, said Veenstra.<br>He himself makes a podcast about &#8230; Disney. And through this Dutch podcast \u2018<strong><a aria-label=\"D-tales (opent in een nieuwe tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.d-log.nl\/series\/d-tales\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">D-tales<\/a><\/strong>\u2019 he reaches the ultimate connection with the niche listener.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Discutafel-podcast-luisteren-oude-radio-1024x512.jpg\" alt=\"Oude radio, van ver v\u00f3\u00f3r de podcast!\" class=\"wp-image-2779\" width=\"512\" height=\"256\" srcset=\"https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Discutafel-podcast-luisteren-oude-radio-1024x512.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Discutafel-podcast-luisteren-oude-radio-300x150.jpg 300w, https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Discutafel-podcast-luisteren-oude-radio-768x384.jpg 768w, https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Discutafel-podcast-luisteren-oude-radio-110x55.jpg 110w, https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Discutafel-podcast-luisteren-oude-radio-420x210.jpg 420w, https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Discutafel-podcast-luisteren-oude-radio-770x385.jpg 770w, https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Discutafel-podcast-luisteren-oude-radio.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 512px) 100vw, 512px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Clement and strict views on podcasting<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Wim Eikelboom of NPO Radio 1 talked about two trends in \u2018podcast country\u2019: the clement and strict views. A short explanation. The Dutch words \u2018rekkelijk\u2019 (clement) and \u2018precies\u2019 (strict) refer to disputes in Protestantism. Eikelboom used to work for a Christian broadcaster.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Strict<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>People with &#8216;strict&#8217; views see podcasts as a genre of great stories. <br>As a podcast maker and audio producer I sympathise with this mindset: I want to bring added value for my client (and his customer). In concept and content. That content can, and may, be very specialised. Because our client or listener wants to make the difference! That&#8217;s the power of podcasts for me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Clement<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>According to mr. Eikelboom, people with more &#8216;clement&#8217; views see podcasting as just another way of making radio.<br>At some point, I agree. Being able to listen to a national radio show at a chosen time, that\u2019s useful for me as a listener.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Take popular Dutch radio programmes which are broadcasted\nin the evening. Some of these shows have more listeners next morning, as a\npodcast. Commuters are stuck in traffic jams and they listen on demand. Which\nmeans: as a producer you invest once and reach twice as much public. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Listener experience<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>But listener relationship is much thinner than the D-tales intimacy. Sometimes producers don\u2019t even bother to remove the hourly news and weather forecast from the show. This makes the listening experience poor. It creates an alienating effect. Because I could be listening to this show days later. Or even weeks.<br>\u2018Canned\u2019 radio is a beautiful invention. But it\u2019s completely different from an intimate podcast.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/180904-Mensen-en-dj-hoek-in-zaal-1200x600-1024x512.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3243\" width=\"512\" height=\"256\" srcset=\"https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/180904-Mensen-en-dj-hoek-in-zaal-1200x600-1024x512.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/180904-Mensen-en-dj-hoek-in-zaal-1200x600-300x150.jpg 300w, https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/180904-Mensen-en-dj-hoek-in-zaal-1200x600-768x384.jpg 768w, https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/180904-Mensen-en-dj-hoek-in-zaal-1200x600-110x55.jpg 110w, https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/180904-Mensen-en-dj-hoek-in-zaal-1200x600-420x210.jpg 420w, https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/180904-Mensen-en-dj-hoek-in-zaal-1200x600-770x385.jpg 770w, https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/180904-Mensen-en-dj-hoek-in-zaal-1200x600.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 512px) 100vw, 512px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">DJ at work during online radio event. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Find the exception <\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Annick van der Leeuw (BNR Newsradio) had some tips for us, podcasters:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Think about your\nstory. Everything is a story. <\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Find the exception. If\nit\u2019s common knowledge you\u2019re talking about, why should one bother to spend his scarce\nfree time on listening to your broadcast? <\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Show that you are\nhuman, have fun, keep that little cough of yours in the edited show. <\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Have the courage. Be bold,\nsometimes. Your public won\u2019t listen to a show which doesn\u2019t affect him. <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">How about your podcast?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>For our Discutafel podcast, niche &amp; personality is king. What\u2019s your choice? Canned radio or craft? Are you \u2018rekkelijk\u2019 or \u2018precies\u2019? If you are a producer, what\u2019s the added value of your podcast for the listener? Please <a aria-label=\"drop me a note (opent in een nieuwe tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/discutafel.nl\/en\/contact\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">drop me a note<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Top photo: Dutch podcaster Michiel Veenstra (right) at a podcast award event. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\" style=\"font-size:11px\">This is an edited version of my <strong><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"earlier article in Dutch (opent in een nieuwe tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/viatrix.nl\/heb-ballen-podcasting\/\" target=\"_blank\">earlier article in Dutch<\/a> <\/strong>about&nbsp;podcasting&nbsp;as&nbsp;a&nbsp;marketing&nbsp;tool&nbsp;for&nbsp;businesses.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thoughts on the power of podcasts. For our Discutafel podcast, niche &#038; personality is king. 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